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Last.fm changes the case of tags (incorrectly)

 
  • Please change Cheb Samir and the Black Souls of Leviathan to Cheb Samir and the Black Souls of Leviathan.

    Proof (They're listed in SS020).

    Thanks!
  • &

    Mil Mascaras to Mil Mascaras.

    Proof.

    &

    Sheb Normal et Cheb Samir to Sheb Normal et Cheb Samir.

    Proof.

    Thanks!
    • edejong said...
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    • 25 Aug 2008, 09:34
    Vancougar to Vancougar

    (proof: http://www.vancougar.ca/)
    music is what feelings sound like
    • pjs18 said...
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    • 25 Aug 2008, 16:04
    Some tracks in the album Now & Them are in lower case.

    2. burn the clock -> Burn the Clock
    4. big wednesday -> Big Wednesday
    6. physical world -> Physical World
    8. reality 3d -> Reality 3D
    9. l.i.f.e. -> L.I.F.E.
    10. nowism -> Nowism

    Proof

    Thanks.
    • Fyh said...
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    • 25 Aug 2008, 16:24
    Please fix these tracks by various artists:

    1. geisterstadt to "Geisterstadt"

    2. unter null to "Unter Null"

    3. January 4th - THe Hypothesis Hours to "January 4th - The Hypothesis Hours"

    4. leanna is a quiet meow to "Leanna is a Quiet Meow"

    5. arms around sleep to "Arms Around Sleep"

    6. you are the sun, your eyes are the sun to "You Are the Sun, Your Eyes Are the Sun"

    7. loudest shop vac in the world to "Loudest Shop Vac in the World"

    8. the irrespective dick area to "The Irrespective Dick Area"

    9. Bulk eye to "Bulk Eye"

    10. shit kids galore to "Shit Kids Galore"

    11. celestial dusty groove to "Celestial Dusty Groove"

    12. pour you into the rug to "Pour You Into the Rug"

    13. Lord krepelka to "Lord Krepelka"

    14. challenge jets to "Challenge Jets"

    15. why is the couch always wet? to "Why Is the Couch Always Wet?"

    16. dirty looks to "Dirty Looks"

    17. who's a puppy cat to "Who's a Puppy Cat"

    18. awe man that's jive skip to "Awe Man That's Jive Skip"

    19. ones all over the place to "Ones All Over the Place"

    Thanks!
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  • Please change Kajun SS to Kajun SS.
    Black Cat #13 to Black Cat #13.
    Les Hulks to Les Hulks.
    Menthols to Menthols.
    Pink Reason to Pink Reason.
    Pierced Arrows to PIERCED ARROWS.
    Pony Up to Pony Up.
    Pintandwefall to PINTANDWEFALL.
    The Alarm Clocks to The Alarm Clocks.
    The Jewws to The Jewws.
    The Nymphets to The Nymphets.
    Tres Delicias to Tres Delicias.
    Zola Jesus to ZOLA JESUS.

    Proof.
    Proof.
    Proof.
    Proof.
    Proof.
    Proof.
    Proof.
    Proof.
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    Proof.
    Proof.
    Proof.
    Proof.

    annoyed by constantly coming across improperly capitalized stuff every so often, so i decided to peruse my library all at once.

    Thanks!
    • Fyh said...
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    • 25 Aug 2008, 19:34
    Wrong.
    Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice.
    Edited by Fyh on 26 Aug 2008, 17:07
  • Falling into Tragedy -> Falling into Tragedy
    • marrs70 said...
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    • 25 Aug 2008, 19:52
    I guess the moderators are tired of us...
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    • ghozza said...
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    • 25 Aug 2008, 20:47
    FromHeartache said:
    ghozza said:
    runwithvampires said:
    a few capitalisations

    Almost Lover (live) --> Almost Lover (Live)

    Come On, Come Out (live) --> Come On, Come Out (Live)

    The Well (demo) --> The Well (Demo)


    Those are fine as they are... (live) and (demo) are never capitalized! just as (remix) or (edit) or (version) etc...

    runwithvampires said:
    you're the one that i want --> You're The One That I Want


    Should be "You're the One That I Want"

    Mosquitokillah said:
    Next to You --> Next To You

    thanx!


    "Next to You"

    PEOPLE, before you post ... make sure you're familiar with Capitalization standards, so at least your suggestions are correct >>> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/CapitalizationStandard


    Actually usually the demo, live and so on are capitalised. That's anyway the proffessional way to do it. ou don't go (cover) do you? it's ( X Band Cover)...

    think gozza.


    euh??? :S Where do you get this information? THEY ARE NEVER CAPITALIZED!
    http://musicbrainz.org/doc/RemixStyle ... that's the professional way to do it...
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    • ghozza said...
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    • 25 Aug 2008, 20:47
    Pas de Deux >>> Pas de Deux
    'There is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it.' -Alfred Hitchcock-
  • Not tired of you, staring at the weekend back log and dreading getting started. I had a flyball tournament this last weekend so was mostly away from cyberland.
  • Re:Re: Re: Yonderboi - Mission of Mercy

    RudiMoser said:
    Studogvetmed said:
    RudiMoser said:
    Mission of Mercy is from Yonderboy

    Thanks


    We can't change i -> y we can only change exact letters for letters in different cases. Titles with accident characters count as different we could not change e -> é for instance. We also can't change É to é.

    I'll start working on some of the ones in the last pages. Don't know how far I will get.


    Who takes care of this issue at last.fm?
    It's really annoying e.g. in this case either parties expect different music.

    thanks and kr
    RM


    No one currently takes care of this issue. It is suggested to update the wiki of the incorrect artist with information about the correct one.

    There is internal testing by staff to come up with systems to help moderate this issues in the future, but the perfect plan is still being worked on.

    I have also slowly started through the back log.
    • marrs70 said...
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    • 25 Aug 2008, 21:29
    Studogvetmed said:
    Not tired of you, staring at the weekend back log and dreading getting started. I had a flyball tournament this last weekend so was mostly away from cyberland.


    Good to see you're back :))
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  • Whew... Okay done. The bug is still in affect on some things it seems. As has been suggested everyone please do refer to the music brainz guidelines. That is what I go by here. Musicbrainz is my first source, Artist pages is my second (but would like musicbrainz back up as sometimes artist pages show "style" not "intent") and I tend to hate to look at myspace as proof.

    Thank you to those who are keeping your posts with shorter requests. Those of you who aren't ;) Please try to limit each post request to say 5 requests. They are easier to handle even if this may mean the thread get's longer quicker, I like to have them in smaller chunks. I would appreciate your cooperation on that all :D You can post multiple requests in a row, but if you could limit them to five each that would be great for me.

    Hey all you caps hunters, turn this energy into helping with wikis and images too! I see so many artists and tracks with these requests with no images and no wikis. if you are are passionate about the artist's caps, please help the community further by filling in these blanks. If you do I'll consider it a thank you for changing the caps for you where appropriate!

    Okay the exceptions part from the last rounds of requests:

    @Ton_7: re: Shitdisco, musicbrainz doesn't agree. Push a mod through there, then we'll talk. Myspace is not the end all be all of proof around here, I generally don't trust myspace as proof.

    @Marrs70: Re: Mended By You, are we sure by should be lowercase, is it not an adverb her? You mended someone not that you were "by" someone mended?

    @Ghozza: Need proof for hiphophobbyklub

    @Anto-N: Need proof for Jonte, By2, Pushin and K.Will

    @Maul of Sound: Pierced Arrows: Musicbrainz doesn't agree, though their discography appears all caps, there news area, media area, etc does not. I think this is a case of art, and not artists intent. Did standar first letter caps

    Zola Jesus - not convinced, no musicbrainz entry

    Pintandwefall - not convinced, musicbrainz doesn't agree. I'm not a fan of myspace as proof in general.

    @trixietrinian: 2 Towers got a bug bite. I tried again.

    @grannygreen: You show me musicbrainz proof and you got a deal on your all caps/all lower requests.

    @fromheartache: I will not go back through your list of requests. The first 6 were already fixed. If you think you already requested some of these, courtesy would dictate that YOU go back through your list and ONLY submit the ones that are not yet fixed. Your cooperation and understanding on this is appreciated. With all these requests we don't have time to sift through things that are already fixed.

    @Fyh: re: Tristan Tzara, I'm sorry, but I won't just go down a long track list of single artist. Some of those are mistagged, etc. Some may have special caps rules. It would take me to much time to dedicate to a single artist and weed out the good from the bad, and look up guidelines across things as that artist seems like they may have some mixed language titles in there. I would be happy to entertain short lists of suggested changes, though. Sorry to be picky, but this caps stuff takes a lot of time and dedication and I need you guys to help focus the project and not send me into a tailspin.

    Okay. Thanks everyone.
    • marrs70 said...
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    • 25 Aug 2008, 22:15
    Studogvetmed said:


    @Marrs70: Re: Mended By You, are we sure by should be lowercase, is it not an adverb her? You mended someone not that you were "by" someone mended?


    MusicBrainz says lowercase...
    http://musicbrainz.org/release/3bc43105-9f72-4fe8-8eb8-ff089c0fc8af.html and http://musicbrainz.org/release/f0d7debf-7660-4d88-b816-84082e41e15e.html
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    • marrs70 said...
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  • Studogvetmed said:
    @Maul of Sound: Pierced Arrows: Musicbrainz doesn't agree, though their discography appears all caps, there news area, media area, etc does not. I think this is a case of art, and not artists intent. Did standar first letter caps

    Zola Jesus - not convinced, no musicbrainz entry

    Pintandwefall - not convinced, musicbrainz doesn't agree. I'm not a fan of myspace as proof in general.


    Hmm, i tend to trust myspace since it's actually the bands typing all this stuff out, i figure they'd know how they want their name to appear, so that's where i'm coming from with it.

    I appreciate the standard caps on Zola Jesus and Pierced Arrows, i agree that there's not much to go on with ZJ and Pierced Arrows vary between normal and caps, so who knows. I'm glad that they're not lowercase anymore, at any rate.

    As for pintandwefall, their website also spells their name in all caps (scroll to the bottom).

    Anyway, thanks for all the fixes!
    • marrs70 said...
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  • maulofsound said:
    Studogvetmed said:
    @Maul of Sound: Pierced Arrows: Musicbrainz doesn't agree, though their discography appears all caps, there news area, media area, etc does not. I think this is a case of art, and not artists intent. Did standar first letter caps

    Zola Jesus - not convinced, no musicbrainz entry

    Pintandwefall - not convinced, musicbrainz doesn't agree. I'm not a fan of myspace as proof in general.


    Hmm, i tend to trust myspace since it's actually the bands typing all this stuff out, i figure they'd know how they want their name to appear, so that's where i'm coming from with it.

    I appreciate the standard caps on Zola Jesus and Pierced Arrows, i agree that there's not much to go on with ZJ and Pierced Arrows vary between normal and caps, so who knows. I'm glad that they're not lowercase anymore, at any rate.

    As for pintandwefall, their website also spells their name in all caps (scroll to the bottom).

    Anyway, thanks for all the fixes!



    If you can get a moderation pushed through for pintandwefall on musicbrainz I'm all for it. Since it says otherwise there, it contradicts the artists possible intent. If you can convince the musicbrainz community I'm for it here.

    The reason I don't necessarily like myspace for proof, even though it may be the real artist, is that I think they sometimes may go a little overboard with artistic look beyond real intent, especially if they aren't consistent with other releases, etc. But I do see where you are coming from.

    Cheers.

    PS: Got Marrs70 recent request.
    • ghozza said...
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    • 26 Aug 2008, 01:33
    Who da Funk >>> Who da Funk
    DJ 3D >>> DJ 3D
    Bunch of Gurus >>> Bunch of Gurus
    Vandalism >>> Vandalism (I can't find any proof that says that the "d" should be capitalized)
    Marco Dos Santos >>> Marco dos Santos (dos means something like from/of; i believe my suggestion is correct)
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    • marrs70 said...
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    • Anto-N said...
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    • 26 Aug 2008, 07:48
    Studogvetmed said:

    @Anto-N: Need proof for Jonte, By2, Pushin and K.Will



    JONTE (MB, Official Website)

    PUSHIM (MB, Official Website)

    K.will (MB, Single cover)

    BY2 (Official Blog, Official Facebook group).
  • PlayI HATE MYSELF AND WANT TO DIE --> I HATE MYSELF AND WANT TO DIE (proof) (proof)

    CARRY DAWN --> CARRY DAWN (proof)
    BLOODLESS --> BLOODLESS (proof)

    Grieving the dead soul --> Grieving the dead soul (proof)

    Yes, all of the song is from Japanese bands, and I am 110% sure of that the songs are uncorrectly tagged at this moment!

    Thanks if any moderator want to change to the titles in BOLD text, proof is from the bands official homepage or their official record label hompage.
  • Marco Dos Santos has the Dos capital in musicbrainz.

    Joe le taxi was a tough one as I thought it was a mixture of french and english, but Taxi is friench for Taxi, so...

    I hate Japanese titles why can't they be capitalized like sensible titles? Do you have scans of the actual album list from a disc? I'd like to see musicbrainz entries to 100% support this idea. Ah heck, I know that Japanese artists like to do this... I'll make the changes and go back and fix the Orges question too. But do me a favor and do some musicbrainz adds, okay?
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